[Resolved]  SATYAM Lights Pvt. Ltd — PAPER PLATE MAKING UNIT - HOW TO COLLECT MONEY?

We KARAN Paper Products would like to register a complaint against
M/S.SATYAM LIGHTS PVT LTD,(Regd. ),
(approved by N.C.T. Govt. of New Delhi)
47/22, Aman Chamber,
(3rd Floor) Old Rajinder Nagar,
Main Pusa Road, New Delhi-110060 (India)
Our address is
527 B/5, PALLAKKU ROAD,
PANDAVARMANGALAM,
KOVILPATTI - 628501,
THOOTHUKUDI DISTRICT,
TAMIL NADU,
( MOBILE NO.:[protected], [protected]).
We have approached them on the basis of newspaper advertisement and internet classifieds for the establishment of a HOME BASED small scale unit for manufacturing of Paper Plate. After a long telephonic discussions to mobile no.: [protected] &[protected]/61 and clarification through email, they have insisted to pay Rs.1,20,000/- in advance for the supply of semi automatic double die paper plate making machine and raw materials for training.
They assured to send all the machineries and raw materials along with a technical engineer to facilitate training and demonstration within a week. We made a payment of Rs.1,20,000/- through
State Bank of India, KOVILPATTI,
to
SATYAM TRADING Co.,
ICICI BANK, KAROL BAGH, NEW DELHI current account No.:[protected],
New Delhi - 110 058
(IFSC CODE:ICIC000629) on 24.06.2009.
After sending the payment, we have send the mail and made phone call regarding the payment to them. Then they confirmed the reception of payment on the next day. After 13 days (6/7/2009) we have received the machine with the Raw material for training.
On 19/7/2009 Trainer from SATYAM Lights reached our place to provide the training. He provided the training. At the time of training he found that there is the problem in the machine. He told us to adjust the problem locally with the help of the local engineers. The trainer told us to send one side of the die to Delhi office for replacement. We have sent that on 20/7/2009. We have receive the replaced die 11/8/2009. After fitting the die also the problem was not solved. We have paid Rs. 8000/- as the transportation charges for the Trainer and the machine to SATYAM Lights.
At the mean time, we have started manufacturing the paper plated on the other side of the machine with one die. We have paid Rs. 74000/- as deposit for the raw material of 1,48,000 (6x6 inches) silver coated sheets. After manufacturing paper plates form the above said amount of raw material, we have to receive Rs. 1,07,300/- from SATYAM Lights. But we receive only Rs. 56,434/- form SATYAM Lights. When we asked about the payment shortage, they told that the finished paper plates are not up to the quality, so that the poor quality plates are rejected. But so far they have not sent back the rejected pieces and the deposit amount for that number of pieces.
At the same time the raw materials sent by the SATYAM Lights are not good in quality. We have informed the problem to SATYAM Lights several times, but nobody taking care of it. We have sent so many letters and mail to SATYAM Lights. No response from their side. After some time, nobody was attended our phone calls. Afterwords they are purposefully not attending my phone calls.
For the past four to five months, the unit is not working due to the above said problem. So that we have lost approximately around 3 to 4 Lakhs Rupees because of SATYAM Lights.
The machine will not worth for Rs.1,20,000/-. Our total lose comes around 6 Lakhs Rupees.
Now, we lost the confident on them.
How we can collect our money as per the above details?
Kindly guide us to recover our money. Shall we complaint? To whom? Where?

We kindly request you to consider our complaint to take necessary actions to collect our money.
Expecting your favorable reply,

KARAN Paper Products
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Aug 13, 2020
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satyam — Took my deposit money

My Flat owner has taken 16000 deposite from me.
and asked for one months notice period but when we told him that we want to vacate the flat he got changed and asked us to stay for 2 months or let you money go.
he did not give my money and as I was not having any proof I was unable to make polic complaint.
His flat is 304, shri rama towers
Opp to [protected]@Miyapur
Miyapur
Hyderabad
M/s Karan Paper Products,
Door No. 527B/5, Pallakku Road,
Pandavarmangalam,
Kovilpatti- 628501 ( Tamilnaidu )
SUB: Legal Notice Dated 24.12.2009

Dear Sir,

My client M/s Satyam Lights Pvt. Ltd., having it office at 3rd floor, Aman Chambers, 47/22, Old Rajinder Nagar, New Delhi, has handed over to me your legal notice dated 24th December, 2009 sent by you on behalf of your clients M/s Karan Paper Products, at Door No. 527B/5, Pallakku Road, Pandavarmangalam, Kovilpatti- 628501 ( Tamilnaidu ) with the instructions to reply the same as under:

At the outset I say that your client has not disclosed to you the real facts and claim raised against my clients is totally unfounded, false, and imaginative and manipulated in as much as the same is not supported by any documents. In absence thereof, the liability raised by your client through this legal notice is not tenable.

However para wise reply of the same is as under:

1. That the contents of para 1of your legal notice are not disputed and it is stated that your client was already in the business of Paper Plate manufacturing and approached my client at there Delhi office for entering in to an agreement with my client for purchase of an Paper Plate Manufacturing unit and for enhancement of their business. The agreement dated 24.07.2009 was duly executed between my client and your clients.

2-6, . That the contents of para 2-6 of your legal notice are not disputed. However it is stated that at the time of installation of the machine, the trained trainer of my clients gave your clients proper training up to the satisfaction of your clients as the machine was absolutely in prefect working conditions and no complaint regarding manufacturing defect of any type of whatsoever was reported to my clients by your clients.

7-12. That the contents of para 7-10 of your legal notice as stated are wrong and malicious and therefore denied in toto. No such E¬-Mail or phone calls were ever received by my clients. It is stated that your client had sent 103000 pieces of finished Paper Plate and out of which only 77760 pieces were found to be as per the specifications. My clients paid you a sum of Rs. 56370/- which was duly accepted by your client. However it is stated that as per agreement dated[protected] duly executed between my client and your client and as per clause 5 and 6 thereof, there are certain specifications and the Paper Plate are to be prepared accordingly and delivered at the office of my client at Delhi and only then the same shall be accepted and payment shall be made.



13. In reply to para 13 of your notice it is already stated above that the machine was delivered and installed, absolutely in prefect working conditions and no complaint regarding manufacturing defect of any type of whatsoever was reported to my clients by your clients at any point of time.

14. In reply to para 14 of your notice it is stated that for selling the machines no such approval from the Government or any competent authority is required.


15. That the contents of para 15 of your legal notice as stated are wrong and malicious and therefore denied in toto. As per agreement dated[protected] duly executed between my client and your client and as per clause 8 thereof, no machine will be taken back once sold to your client.

16. That the contents of para 16 of your legal notice as stated are wrong and malicious and therefore denied in toto. It is denied that the cost of the machine is worth Rs. 25, 000/-. It is specifically denied that my client has duped and defrauded your client. There is no deficiency of service on the part of my client as your client is not a consumer within the meaning of Consumer Protection Act and has no locus standi to file any complaint as the transaction between the parties took place for commercial gains so the dispute raised by your client can not be a termed as consumer dispute as defined under the C. P. Act.

17. That the contents of para 17 of your legal notice as stated are wrong and malicious and therefore denied in toto. Agreement dated[protected] duly executed between my client and your client already stand expired as per clause 3 of the same.

18. That the contents of para 18 of your legal notice as stated are wrong and malicious and therefore denied in toto

Through above said reply to your legal notice I on behalf of my client deny that they owes any civil liability as claimed by your legal notice. As per the agreement dated[protected] and as per clause 13 of the same in case of any dispute in regard to the agreement between the parties only the Delhi Courts shall have the Jurisdiction to entertain and try the same. The claim made by your legal notice is totally false, unfounded and malicious with a view to harass my client. In absence of any cogent, authenticated proof of liability the claim made by your client is mischievous, ill-designed and with a view to extort money. The claim made by your client is not only untenable but also defamatory causing insult, disrepute and tarnishing the fair image of my client who reserve the right to file suit for defamation against your client.


However in the interest of fair name of business practices and conventions I request you to kindly give wise counseling to your client to avoid unwarranted litigation however if any litigation is initiated the same will be defended at the cost and risk of your client. In the end as a matter of courtesy my client offers to discuss the matters with your client or with your client’s authorized representative at Delhi office of my client with a view to clarify the whole matter and remove miss-understanding as my client is still ready to extended the agreement dated[protected] and interested to work with your client with full spirit of the agreement dated[protected].

Copy to :-
M/s Karan Paper Products,
Door No. 527B/5, Pallakku Road, BALVINDER RALHAN
Pandavarmangalam, ADVOCATE
Kovilpatti- 628501 ( Tamilnaidu )
Disagree.

They are trying to hide lots of facts. We are having all the documents to prove our complaint. We are going to take legal action against them. We will submit all the evidences in court. Let them know. They are not attending our calls.

Raw Material — RAW MATERIAL NOT RECEIVED FROM LAST 25 DAYS

Dear sir,

I am sugumar raju from madurai, i had sent dd for 10000 Rs for Making CFLs in Home based job on 07.06.2010, but still now i dont receive raw material. so i request you to make a necessary action early as possible.

I made a call every day there is no better response, and they don,t clear my problem.

Please Please confirm about my life.

My Mobile no is +91 [protected]
this is the fault of
M/s Karan Paper Products,
Door No. 527B/5, Pallakku Road, BALVINDER RALHAN
Pandavarmangalam, ADVOCATE
Kovilpatti- 628501 ( Tamilnaidu )
as that is there money thay have to take care of it

I am insame trade of Manufactureing dona plate if they want to sell there product i can help them
navinjain.[protected]@gmail.com
How many fraud companies are running no one has any idea...

Can this satyam trading prove that this is a honest business??

How many people have benefitted from home employment??How many lost their money??
What i am thinking is,

If SATYAM Lights Pvt. Ltd is not a cheater /, fraud company then let them prove it.

They must be having other clients in other states as well, who are already doing good business with Satyam.
Let these clients come in front and talk behalf of this company.. ( With their complete address ofcourse to verify that they are really exist and doing business with this satyam ).

Then only we can justify,
If Satyam is unable to prove itself then it will be clear that Satyam may be a Froud company.
Its your money You have to take care of it they are profasional

"SAB GANDA HAIN PAR DHANDA HAIN YAIN"

IF YOPU REALLY INTERSTED IN BUSSINESS EVEN NOW I CAN HELP YOU NOT IN MONEY MATER BUT IN RUNNING YOUR BUSSINESS

navinjain.[protected]@gmail.com
Sathyam frauds unemployed people. let them show howmany people benefitted since 3 years. I am also in the line to purchase the product. Now i known this is fraude.
today we have talk to sathyam lighting to purchase of paper plate machine just going through online survey found this ...opppppppps whome should i beleave now...

plz help me is to find any honest company out there
Today we have received brouches from stayam lights pvt ltd, After searching in the net i found that their are some Consumer Complaits regarding to this company. My doubt is since 1996 on words satyam lights are doing business, but only few people came out with compalints, then what about others.I request are their any people haveing good opinion on statyam lights.
Friends,

I am planning to pay for the same to another company called RS international, can anyone tell me abt this company
Satyam Trading pvt ltd dont have an official email ID. It is using rediffmail for the conversation with customers. Satyam Trading pvt ltd has to prove its has its not a fraud company by atlest my providing official email ID.
This Post is regarding RS international, Pitampura. I too saw the newspaper adds, called them. They sent the brouchers. Many phone discussions. They were very prompt to answer calls, even if you give them a missed call they'll call you back.
Follwoing oints Assured before buying the machine:

1.As soon as they receive the materials, they will release the Amount promptly.
2.No delays.
3.They will be very proactive in sending the raw materials once they receive the money.

Convinced, I bought their single die paper cups machine for 75k in April 2012. They sent the machine and the trainer promptly.( no big training required for ppl who have technical knowledge. Just a booklet with procedures will do. I ended up paying 4.5k to the guy)

During the purchasing phase, Anupama was the reps that helped me with the purchasing.

Now after the first set of production the problems unfolded.

Their attitude and tone over the phone changed -
They don't reply to phone calls promptly.
They say they never received the Courier yet or the materials

Steps that are involved in the production process. This is never briefed by them. The business initially may sound profitable, but considering all below the margin gets very thin.

For the semi Automatic - which is 75k, they will send sheets of papers which is the raw material.
1.We'll need to get it from the Parcel point, which most cases is far - Hence the transportation cost
2.Take it to the Press (Power press)and get it cut 6x6 - cutting cost
3.Production
4.Packaging - will need plastic covers, staple them in 100s and put them in carton boxes. Brown tape or nylon belt it -
brown tape is not very reliable. It'll get opened during transportation
5. Take the boxes to the Railway station - Parcel office which is also far, hence again transportation cost
6. Parcel cost - This depends on the box size. make sure you don't put the material in a very strong box as the boxes are usually heavy and will add to the overall parcel cost. For 1.5"x3" of 5 boxes it can cost you rs. 600+ at the parcel office.
7. Take the LR copy and go to the Courier office, courier it to RS international. Courier cost Rs. 60
8. Call RS international the next day and inform them about material.


Here's the Pain ...
They will not answer phone, once they know it's you call
you call from another phone - some one will pick it and say - Sir Madam nahi hai, baad maee phone karo. (Sir Madam is not there, call back later)
Finally after multiple attempts you manage to get them. They will say they have not received the courier. After 2 weeks you call them, they will say they have received the material, it's in quality check, call back the next day.
You call them back.. they will never pick the call. after 2 days you somehow manage to get them after 25 phone call attempts. They will ask who are you, your name, from where you are calling (pretending to be unaware)
Then they will tell you, it's still in Quality.
After 4 weeks the will tell you that some of the material has been rejected and send you a check.
Man.. its.. really a painful process to deal with them..

In my opinion..
They are not serious with the business and don't care once we invest in the machine.
The Original machine cost is just half the quoted price.

This is a good business if they are prompt and proactive and keep the vendors (us) updated with the status. In a real life scenario this is not the case. If someone can afford to go to Delhi and inform their managers.. I guess there should be an outcome. Now the question, what if the manager is alike.. cause as the sayin goes. Jaisa Raj.. vaisa praja .(Like king so his people)..
navin
pls kindly tell the review o[censored]r statemenys about ur geniune ness o[censored]r self
Questions › Paper plate making machine
Paper plate making machine
Kiran Kulkarni on May 30, 2013
hello guys I got a proposal from below mentioned companies MEERA TRADERS GLOW TECH ENTERPRISES AUTO-CARE SUN SMART LINE all companies are based in new Delhi, they offering their Fully automatic paper plate making machine for 80, 000/- and they say 350/- for 1000 plates with buyback agreement. guys kindly anyone can tell me the genuinity of these companies
Hello Dear Friends,

I have recently saw a news paper with a business proposal of "paper plate, cfl and candle making business, i had sent my complete mailing address, they had promptly sent the company business proposal which is the machines images and cost,

1 ) Mahalakshmi Associates ( New Delhi ) 200/ per 1000 plates machine cost 60, 000/- but we pay only 12000/- rest in 6/9/12 EMI'S

I am not sure if this is really a genuine business...

2 ) Sai Enterprises ;;; (New Delhi ) 210/ per 1000 plates basic manual machine costs 20, 000/-

Dear friends please call me or email me if you have been cheated by the above 2 companies, it sounds too good to be true,

lets join hands and fight GANDA BUSINESS AND GANDA PEOPLE, we got screwed by BRITISH because we didnt have UNITY lets not repeat the same mentality, lets join hands. lets share information as information is wealth and it can save a lot of innocent people in our country, ,

Regards
Sceptic Soul
Cell : [protected],
Dear Friends,

Nice to see all the people together, today i have paid the amount for "FULLY AUTOMATED PAPER PLATES MAKING MACHINE" the dealing was done with KK Trading company, 1028 Gali Telian, Tilaknagar, Nehru place Delhi.

Please help me with any frauds with this company/ any feedback on the same.

Thanks,
Shankar
Hyd,
[protected],
shankar.[protected]@gmail.com

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