[Resolved]  Cobra Group Of International — Cheater & flirt

List of known local Cobra Group subsidiaries

1. Dreamworks Acquisition
2. JAG Group
3. Keneve Group of Companies
4. Regal Group of Companies
5. Appco S/B (Father company)
6. ESP S/B
7. Pro Enterprise (SS15 Subang Jaya)
8. Rich Marketing Group (at least this one is honest enough to put the word "marketing" lol)

Their tactics & The Truth

** Salary of RM1800-RM3000 during training and more after 6-8 months project. You won't get paid any basic salary

** Usually under the title of "Management Trainee" or "Executive Development Program". Your title is SALES PERSONNEL

** These are the same lines all Cobra Group companies use:

-- "Fresh graduates who are willing to be coached from A to Z of a company operation and hardworking- please try your luck!" Coached - Reading from same piece of paper, memorize it and tell strangers about it

-- "Promotion to Managerial positions with Regional and Overseas Career Expansion". Something like Amway's incentive tours to overseas IF you con enough people

-- "The person who think that they possess all the skills required to be a successful future manager". When they expand, they chuck you there to further con people and you will have no time for your personal life AT ALL

-- "No min working experience is required (Special on-the-job training will be provided)". They train you to talk to strangers and be beggars

** On your first day of your you will be briefed on company structure. Any AMWAY members will know this is the exact promotion structure Amway uses the moment they see it. Sales projection, get 3 leaders you become Team Leader blablabla.

** On your second day, just quit the job.

** You'll get a piece of paper on dialogues and you are expected to preach to strangers. I don't think we graduated to be beggars.

The "new" advertisement:

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Interview

** First interview will be in group interview (suspicious?)

** Second interview you will follow your "evaluator" to the field, usually in front of banks and see what they do. They will tell you "This is to test how much do you want the job" and then ask you to do the same thing: Begging & Bugging

** Third interview will be on the same day of the 2nd. You will be asked to go back by yourself to the company. WTF right?


What they slipped

** One guy used the word "downline" and "upline"

** The boss comes into the office EARLIER than everyone and leave LATER than everyone, even his secretary. Somemore he dare to use the word "TIME FREEDOM" and then say he sleep at 10.30PM.

** The structure chart. Some people who never join Amway will not see it coming because the only direct sales company to use it is Amway, and Cobra Group is applying the same thing.

** No basic pay. Tell me, which PROFESSIONAL job (as they claim) doesn't pay their employees? Like that I also wanna be the boss lar.

If you have more info of this company or companies under Cobra Group / DS-Max, add it here as they seem to be running rampant all over Jobstreet, conning degree holders from Law to Engineering fresh grads. Sadly, these people think they are doing a great job, where in fact they are earning money and being brainwashed day in day out.

From Wikipedia (Credits: Polaris)

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Cobra slash DS MAX is in wikipedia, their infamous ways are well known all over the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS-MAX

One of the most common complaints about DS-Max affiliated companies is in their recruiting and advertising practices. Often the position is advertised as an "entry level management position", and claims to operate in any number of glamorous, competitive, high profile, industries ranging from pro sports and entertainment to 4 star restaurants and world travel, when in reality the position is that of a door-to-door salesperson who peddles pizza coupons, discount baseball tickets, 5 dollar umbrellas, designer knock-off hand bags, and travel alarm clocks, none of which the applicant will actually discover until they are out "in the field" with a distributor on their "second interview".

A common interviewing formula used by the independent sales offices consists of:

1. A very short first round interview conducted in the office of the manager. Typically in this interview the manager will briefly outline the structure of the business to the potential new distributor. A typical DS-Max manager will interview anywhere from 10 to 30 people a day so this first interview is usually short on detail and any prolonged question and answer sessions are avoided if possible.

2. A full day "second interview" in the sales field where the potential distributor shadows a current distributor while they attempt to sell their products or services door-to-door. This full day interview is an attempt to show the potential distributor how a typical day in the field works. This full day interview, like the first interview is purposefully vague on details and most questions are not answered fully or more difficult questions get passed on to the manager/owner to handle during the final interview. This is known within DS-MAX circles as the "Day of Observation" or the "Day of O".

3. A "final interview" takes place in the manager's office when the potential distributor returns after a full day in the field. If the applicant has any problems or objections, the manager may attempt to overturn them. If the potential distributor needs some clarification in order to understand the "big picture" of this business opportunity the manager will attempt to explain the business beyond just selling products door-to-door. The goal of every manager is to encourage the interviewee to start full time the very next day.

The name DS-Max is often used to refer to the whole distribution system that includes DS-Max USA Inc., its affiliated suppliers and independent offices. Each affiliated sales office is an independent and incorporated business.

This legal separation between the DS-Max supplying organizations and each individual office insulates DS-Max from any legal or financial liability should something happen within an individual office.

Because all sales offices are independently owned and operated each individual distributor and manager/owner reaps the rewards of and is both financially and legally responsible for his own business. The majority of all distributors work as independent contractors and thus are not paid a salary, receive no health benefits and are responsible for paying their own taxes.

The DS-Max system runs similarly to network marketing businesses but with several key differences:

1) Sales representatives (distributors) generally work full-time (often six days, 60 hours or more a week), relying on their sales for their primary source of income, rather than a slow transition from part-time to full-time.

2) The individual owner assumes the cost and advertises for new distributors and finds a mentor for them, rather than the distributor absorbing the cost of recruiting.

3) Distributors receive the products on consignment rather than paying for them up front and there is no fee for becoming a distributor.

The business only grows when new distributors are added. While DS-Max as a whole has grown quite large through the years, the vast majority of distributors and managers in affiliated distribution operations in the DS-Max system have not enjoyed success. In the 20 plus years of operation the Ds-max business model has generated some tremendous success for a small group of Vice-Presidents, or as they are referred to now, National Consultants, but the question of how many have found success in Ds-max compared to the number who have attempted to achieve success can only be answered by analyzing accurate, detailed records of these organizations and their affiliates. However the nature of their operations make it unlikely that such documentation exists.

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Ido May 2 2006, 02:42 PM Show posts by this member only |Rating BETA (0+, 0-) | Post #2


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I being con before. DS-Max. Their lousy plan is you start as trainee -> Leader -> team leader -> assistant manager -> manager. From trainee to become leader, you need to hit weekly target. Then, as leader you can start con others to be your downlines. Once you have 5 downlines promote to team leader. As team leader, you will be entitle to suck some commision from your downlines (5%) of the daily total sales.

Assistant manager is 10%. What really make money is when you become manager. DS-max is selling many thing but whatever they are selling, you earn RM 2-3 each item they sell. Mostly the manager earn RM 1000 ++ daily

FYI, manager really earn that much. Believe it. That why they are growing. The main issue is how you can become the manager. You need at least 13 - 15 downlines. Now that the hardest part. My ex uplines have been working for more than 5 years. He has been promoted as Manager before but de promoted when your men leave the team. So from there, he keep on struggling until today. Still same not making money.

The system seem great but no guarantee. People don't like walking around selling thing. So is hard to get people. My advise is you can treat it as temporary job while hunting others. My experiencee in the company was great. We penetrate a high security building e.g military kem, Maybank and many more. Chase up by the security. Sometimes the inside people may help you also. Is a fun job but making money.

That my experience for DS-max.



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hehhe... what an experience in life... if you would like to take is as once in a lifetime experience also can...

Chase up by the security <---- this will sharpen your skill in sales and to be alert on outcome of your action. It is hard to penetrate military camp... if you could... you might have talent in sales..

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QUOTE(Ido @ May 2 2006, 02:42 PM)
I being con before. DS-Max. Their lousy plan is you start as trainee -> Leader -> team leader -> assistant manager -> manager. From trainee to become leader, you need to hit weekly target. Then, as leader you can start con others to be your downlines. Once you have 5 downlines promote to team leader. As team leader, you will be entitle to suck some commision from your downlines (5%) of the daily total sales.

Assistant manager is 10%. What really make money is when you become manager. DS-max is selling many thing but whatever they are selling, you earn RM 2-3 each item they sell. Mostly the manager earn RM 1000 ++ daily

FYI, manager really earn that much. Believe it. That why they are growing. The main issue is how you can become the manager. You need at least 13 - 15 downlines. Now that the hardest part. My ex uplines have been working for more than 5 years. He has been promoted as Manager before but de promoted when your men leave the team. So from there, he keep on struggling until today. Still same not making money.

The system seem great but no guarantee. People don't like walking around selling thing. So is hard to get people. My advise is you can treat it as temporary job while hunting others. My experiencee in the company was great. We penetrate a high security building e.g military kem, Maybank and many more. Chase up by the security. Sometimes the inside people may help you also. Is a fun job but making money.

That my experience for DS-max.






Please do not upsell DS-Max here, this is exactly how they psycho people into these jobs. For example, FYI this and that manager really made 1k daily etc and etc, but that is just him, you have to be really good to be like that... blah blah blah,

Please contribute to the society and economy by giving value not preaching get rich schemes.
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s ach me this is a fraud company n are sending so many mails oh God...such useless fellows
i agree to all des commentssssss... thanx a lot. you have saved ma life...
thank god u saved my life. i
got selected in this interview and joined today. now i wont go from
tomorrow onwards. as u said dey brain-washed me. Thank you so much.ss plp do listen vever join dis company if its such a big company it should be located in the main of t. nagar. but its been located somewhere inside. totaaly r career ll go in vain never join plsss...
hi ma name is arup barua was working for envision under the owner of amit pradhan and under the leadership of meenakshi.i had a wondrful experiance but there were some issue tht i had left the organisation.these are the following
1.)owner of the company don't know the difference b/w marketing and selling.retrain him
2.)onwer does not know how to behave in the organisation
3.)owner don't have any kind professionalism
4.)onwer don't know how to behave with employee.
5.)owner making fool out of employee by giving lucrative offer.
6.)onwer does't give joining letter or appointment letter while recritment.
7.)owner mentain on public portel that salary are fixed 14000k. but when enter the organisation it come to know that it is commision based salary
8.)owner does't know how to talk with girls using foul language.
9.)onwer do community discrimination.
DEAR SIR AMIT PRADHAN.if some how you read this comment i must tell you i don't care you did't give me my pay..and you like word ...do one thing pick up ur with that money and remember you are elder then me that i the reason i didt say anything to you...other wise i must tell you onethg dont try to teach UR FATHER hw to [censored].and yeah u take my pay then do onething make your company website with that money.dueshe bag
Hello frnds i received a mail from SYMMETRY Organization it goes as follows-

INTERVIEW CALL
From:
Vision <symmetry.[protected]@gmail.com>
Add to Contacts
To: vaibhav.[protected]@yahoo.in
For Internal Use of Employer (Please don't delete or modify while replying to this email)
Monster Resume ID: 24409274 Personal Folder ID: 7473153

Dear Vaibhav,

Hi

This is with reference to the Ad posted by us on a job search site regarding a great career opportunity in Management.

Congrats!!!

Your resume has been short listed for the job opening that we have in our Organization.

Giving a glance about our company: SYMMETRY Organization, one of the U.K based MNC which is world’s No 1 marketing company and we are dealing in sectors like Finance, Banking, Telecom, Sports, Energy, Charity etc.,
We have our offices in 27 countries and almost in every major cities of India.
Our Mission is to provide leading brands a one-stop solution for all their face-to-face customer acquisition and promotional needs. We are dedicated to providing strategic acquisition solutions and generating the best possible return of investment for our clients.

Now we have Major Expansion plans in PUNE.

Position available for:
Marketing
H.R,
Finance,
Administration.

Remuneration b/w 15k - 25k pm.

For more details and to fix an appointment for the interview kindly contact us - NOTE: Immediate starters only preferred
Looking Candidates age should be below 30 yrs.

Manasi M : 020—40026440/ 40026139

Interview date –22/12/2009 to 29/12/2009
(Except Sunday /Monday)
Interview Time- 12 P.M to 2 P.M
Company Name- SYMMETRY ORGANISATION.
2nd floor, Pradnya Empire
Above Charus Restaurant
Deep Bungalow chowk
Model colony, Shivaji Nagar
Pune-411016.

What should i do? Go for interview or delet this mail?
A company which signs up 55, 000 customers for its service based clients a month will have people scratching their backs . for every 1 happy human being their are another 1000 unhappy
the frustration of not being part of such a big expansion which started 11 years back from scratch could be understood from these posts
with the fifa world cup on when i read the newspaper there are often comments by the loosing team on
how the refree was biased
how there were wrong decisions given
how the coach kept a good player on the bench
how the opponent team cheated
how the crowd was disturbing
how the ground was slippery
etc etc etc but the winning team is pronounced as victorious no matter what
so before you talk about somebody who is victorious be careful because you might come across like an whining looser
i can understand that a handful of people could have had bitter experiences but because one mac donald outlet serves stale burger doesnt mean that macdonald is stale ...
so go out and resolve your grievances face to face with the individuals concerned as we might do at a macdonald counter instead of blaming the entire system
its a question for you all who talk badly about the company on a cheap blog " how can a company come into a country start from scratch ?
in 10 years recruit 2500 people?,
start 10 cities?
work for 15 topnotch companies?
set up 90 offices ?
sign 55, 000 customers a month ?
how? how? how? how?
Do you have answer for that no right ???? "because it doesnt take a key board to type to do it "
you know what it needs ?
sweat, sheer hard work, integrity, humility, respect, discipline, sacrifice, dedication and above all a honesty to lead people .
WE didnt mean to put anybody down with our comments its just to highlight the simple fact of life that
" People dont throw stones at ' FRUITLESS ' trees"
55, 000 ripe fruits (customers) a month ...
cobra group plc (apcco in kirti nagar). i had a worst experience of my life..i want to share with you guys..so that you can think before distorying your life.

now they have new tactics they are hiring MBA's and told them that we r hiring u as a management trainee and after 8-10 months you will be prompted as a branch manager.. but

on your first day they will send you with trainer which is already fristerated as he/she was not getting sale..

on second day trainer told you to pitch that product to sell to customer..

on third day i[censored] realise that u r in wrong job leave that job on the spot ...otherwaise u will morw than a month and after that if you sell was satisfactory then ok otherwise u r not going to get any salary...

i left that job on third day...

rohit poonia
BEWARE...Cobra group is a big fraud..ELITE MANAGEMENT in Chandigarh, sco 217, top floor, sector 37C..is a branch over there.. Mr.Sreejith Nair is the head over there..guys dont go for interview i[censored] get a call...they will tell u that they wll gv u salary betwn 14000 to 30000. but its based on commission.. they wl send u to field to collect some donation on behalf of CRY or SAVE THE CHILDREN whc r NGOs i[censored] can collect a cheque of Rs.1200 from a person whc is d minimum amount u can collect u wl get Rs.200, means Rs.200 per support...ths is d commision u wl get ..they wl send u with some leaders who r already into ths business..they wl motivate u by telling lots of things..i[censored] ask about the salary thy wl never explain to u..they wl tell manager wl explain to u.. I[censored] get a call from ths company plz dont go for interview..u wl spoil ur career over thr..Mr. sreejith nair impress the guys specially gals by his looks and speeches..he keeps relation also wid the gals to retain them in d business...worst culture i hv evr seen in any company..beware of Elite and Mr.Sreejith Nair..
WHY ARE ALL DISGRUNTLED FOLKS HURLING ALL BAD WORDS, INVECTIVES, PROFANITIES AGAINST THE COMPANY N ITS PEOPLE WHICH SUCH NAUKRISHUDA SMALL THINKING FOLKS WONT USE FOR THEIR PARENTS? WHILE THE COMPANY AND ITS PEOPLE MAINTAIN A DIGNIFIED SILENCE...NO WONDERS...THEY SAY WHEN ELEPHANTS WALK, DOGS WILL BARK...THESE SO CALLED MBAs FROM SOME NON DESCRIPT B - SCHOOL COZ THEY DIDNT HAVE THE ... TO CLEAR CAT N ONLY SPENT THEIR FATHER'S HARD EARNED MONEY TO DO A JOB ("NAUKAR)I...HOW WUD THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE AN ENTREPRENEUR...HOW WUD THEY UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE RICHEST BUSINESSMAN STARTED FROM DIRECT SALES...MORE SPECIFICALLY DOOR TO DOOR SALES...THEY WILL WORK AS A NAUKAR FOR REST OF THEIR LIVES N RETIRE BY 60 YEARS OF AGE ...WHILE PEOPLE IN COBRA WILL MAKE 20-40K ON FIELD IN PROFITS AT[protected] YRS OF AGE ( COMMISSIONS...THEY DONT WANT BAKSHISH OF A NAUKAR AS A SALARY...THEY DECIDE THEIR OWN MONTHLY INCOME...THEY R PROUD OF IT)...THEY WILL MAKE 2-3-4 LAKHS A MONTH AS BUSINESS OWNERS AT[protected]-29-30 YEARS OF AGE...N[protected] LAKHS A MONTH AS VICE PRESIDENTS AT[protected] YEARS OF AGE N RETIRE N HAVE EVERY CONCEIVABLE THING IN THEIR LIFE...
TRUTH HAS PREVAILED...N WILL PREVAILLLL...
NORHING PERSONAL...NO BAD WORDS...COZ WE R DIGNIFIED...COZ ALL THESE PEOPLE R FRUSTRATED WITH THEIR SMALL JOB (NAUKARI)...ALL THE BEST BOYS N GIRLS...U WILL BUY A 1BHK FLAT IN VIRAR N A MARUTI 800 IN UR LIFETIME COZ U CANT BE AMONG THE 5% PEOPLE WHO RUN BUSINESSES N DONT GET A SALARY AS A NAUKAR BUT WHO HAVE THE 95% MONEY IN THE WORLD... .DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE...NJOI...
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ELEPHANTS WILL WALK...DOGS WILL BARK...HAHAHAHA...
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ELEPHANTS WILL WALK...DOGS WILL BARK...HAHAHAHA...
cobra will reign...cobra will rule ...their owners, business heads, organization heads n vps will make some serious money n buy houses in Pali Hill, Juhu, Marine Drive n Powai...they will buy Mercs, Ferraris, Bentleys n Rolls Royces...all those who were not intelligent to understand cobra's business or were sacked for unprofressionalism or didnt have the leadership to run a people's business will keep on cribbing...we wish them the best 2...cobra has rockedd, is rocking n will rock forever...
To Akshay Malhotra,


We donot wish to stay in Pali hill because I stay in a better place than that. Secondly, how many of your trainees at Cobra own a MERC/ BENTLEYS or watever??? I would really like to meet them dear..The above mentioned companies donot treat their employees like , fyi... People like you will definitely enjoy the experiences at Cobra so please continue to do so...
such losers where you have to go and beg for a donation...that's not the reason why we have educated ourselves..cos we are better off now!!!
NRVANA...the one that is operating from their Vile Parle office in mumbai...
Hi,

I was also employee of this group in PUNE. My orgnization name was VELOCITY. Its really a [censored]ing orgnization ... as the orgnization Head MR AMIT BAID is the most [censored]ing person in that orgnization. These people hiers MBA and send them on field to ask money for childrens and old age people and you know... they eat more of the in that money for their luxury ...

The Organization Head calls each and every girl in the night and talks about nonsence things like SEX...

PEOPLE DONT JOIN THIS ORGNIZATION as these people create a good view in front of the new joinee and after some days he come to know about the real things...

They say that in last 10 years they have 1500 employees are working with them but they are not telling that more than 50000 peolpe kicked their by leaving the orgnization...

MR AMID BAID have an extra marrietial affair with other BDM Miss RINA RAJPAL... She is the owner of TANGENT...

Amit can [censored] any girl in the organization as he always talk about the [censored]ING things...


DONT SPOIL YOUR CARRIER BY JOINIG THIS ORGNIZATION...
Hey Guys, i am a BMM graduate & even i hav got a call from this group for interview, Shouldd i go or not ??? Please hepl, The Address where i am invited is,

Millennium Organization, Near Landmark Bldg, Behind Cine max Theater, Andheri(E) !!!
Hey Guys i am a BMM graduate & even i am invited for an interview from a company like this, Should i Go ???
Please Help me with that,
Thanx aton.
The name & Address of the company is,

Millennium Organization, Near Landmark Bldg, Behind Cine max Theater, Andheri(E) Name of the CO was NIRVANA.
No.. harsh dont go ... itz really a fake company!! i was also a employee of this company! Nirvana is jus another name for Cobra grup!!! Dude dont join u'll b wastin ur tym thr!!!
Apni mayya chudav sab kahi jaakar yaha kyon apni gaand marathey ho ?
Gaand mein dum hain toh hamare jaise mehnat karo saalo izzjade ki aulad blog par aakar likney se tumhara Lund bada nahi hoga Woh chhota hi rahenga madarchuton apney dil se baduwan deta hoon ke tum sab joh hame badnam karney par tuley hon tum sabka satyanash hon tumhari biwi raand banye, tumhare bacche beek mange, pati Hijra ban jayye tumko lakva mar jayen !!!
Hi,

AKSHAY MALHOTRA 1234

we guys hav shared wat all v hav experienced & what evr doubt u had regarding your reputation is been answered by the above gentleman so called "voice of india " .

See the way this is using bad words ... & uncultured, unmannered, manipulators, Bloody cheaters are the attributes of Business Head of this organization .

Yaar rote kyun rehte ho tum log apne ko accha dikhane k liye?? & AKSHAY i think u r baccha in this compny sooner or latter ull also get 2 know d reality of this
" Bhikhmangi " compny.

& finally u "voice of india " mind ur bloody language, i[censored] hav mind !
Dont mess with youth of India ur dick will b crushed under your .

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